Don't get too excited guys...

But wouldn't it be great to have a nice synthzone app
Or Ketron App As synthzone nowadays is all about Keyron and Audya.

Something like gearslutz has...
We can then eat, breath, sleep synthzone

What you millions of iPhone users think?

????? You mean September 17th TYROS4 will dominate the World & BBs for sure.

Having to wade through these interminable Audya quiz-fests here is QUITE enough torture for me, personally...

But maybe an app that would filter out your incessant questions until you've actually BOUGHT an Audya would come in handy...

can't wait to get an AUDYA,

hard to believe, but it WILL happen my friends...

and Diki, if i do buy, what will you do?

goto Spencers?

Diki is very happy with his two G70's......why aren't you with yours lee?

who says i wasn't happy with my G-70?
i am very happy with it

but i will be even happier with an AUDYA
as its styles are better IMO,
and it's sound is, for me, the BEST,
most authentic...

real drums, real bass, real guitars
what more can i ask for?

oh ye, and AUDYA

Lee do you have any demo songs played on the G70 we can hear?

no,
i use the G-70 live/gigs

but once i get my AUDYA,
i'm sure i'll share my happiness with you guys

What kind of gigs are you performing at?

weddings
dinner-dance
birthdays, anniversaries,
fund raising events 400+ people

trio, me on keys, guitar, and female vocals

Are you using the G70 styles?

You know, Lee, take away the need for the guitar loops in the Audya, and I'm not sure you can show such a radical improvement by the Audya over the G70...

I've heard a LOT of demos on the Audya that the G70's drums can come VERY close to, and they have the undoubted superiority of being easily changed (to a brush kit if in a low-key venue, for instance) and edited (you can't do a damn THING to a loop). And, to be fair, the audio loops are about the only thing that Audya shows as a clear superiority to other arrangers.

Perhaps you are heavily into Latin music (great Audya styles for that), but from what I've heard, little else is unquestioningly superior. Yes, sure, if you take the Audya's ROM styles and they are sufficient for all your needs, you are possibly good to go. But I still feel that the Audya's inability to have its' loops edited to your taste is it's Achilles Heel. They SURE sound good now, but after a couple of years, I know that I would start to get frustrated that I couldn't do anything to them to make them fresher.

I certainly wouldn't count on any Ketron software to make making your OWN loop styles easy... look at how poor their sequencing and style editing software has been in the past.

Personally, I feel that another couple of generations, in hardware and software is going to be needed before a live loop arranger is as flexible a tool as a MIDI one is now. I don't know if you are a heavy user of the Cover and Makeup Tools in the G70, but I for one would be lost if they were taken away.

I think the Audya provides the MOST 'instant gratification' of any arranger currently out, but at the cost of FUTURE gratification, or at least, a SIGNIFICANT increase in the workload to achieve that future gratification.

Styles using Midi are just too functional, adaptable, and programmable to give up, and, of course, the onboard sounds will eventually improve to the point where having actual audio tracks would be redundant.

Ian

Not at the rate that Yamaha are going, anyway, Ian! While other manufacturers either go to live loop drums, or heavily multisampled drums with a lot of ambiance around them, Yamaha continue to give us those bone dry 80's throwbacks that continue to deter many from moving to Yamaha. But ONLY in their arranger products. Great drums in a MoXS/XF. But 80's drums in a T3...

As the gulf between what Yamaha provide and their competition offers widens, sooner or later, Yamaha is going to have to play catch up. Sooner would be my hope...

Lets see...Yamaha's main arranger competition is Korg and Casio.

Roland is gone, and Ketron is barely holding on, and I'd be surprised if they'll be around for much longer.

Having said that, until we actually hear the Tyros4, it's a bit early to say they aren't competitive in drums/percussion.

Ian